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Poster Stop Speaking For All Vampires.
Started by LastFallenAngel

Stop Speaking For All Vampires.


[!] A copy of an older post seems to have been pinned along with this.
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"This is not a boon; this is not a blessing; this is the greatest shame one can possibly possess."


You speak as if you represent a whole. Were you perhaps stupidDid you make a bad deal? Were you cursed? Last I heard, you were partly at fault, or perhaps I heard wrong? Either way, you decide to speak for an entire race on this topic, so I hope you have something to back yourself.


I agree that vampirism isn't a blessing, but nor is it a curse. It is neither good nor evil, and it is certainly not the greatest shame... or should I call you and the entire elven race the greatest shame? You curse a race for its way of life, way of living, and breathing. Not all are warm-blooded; some are green-bloodedand I truly hope you realize that even if you refuse to feed on the living, you are still green-blooded ... or maybe a corpse eater? You need blood to survive, dear young vampire, unless you wish to snap and attack any person who might pass by .


With that said, I am not solely here to victimized you or call you out, but next time you speak, don't speak for an entire race ; don't act like you know every single vampire; and for sure, don't threaten me or my kin again. I might be a peaceful person, but should you raise a blade to my kind, I shall raise a blade to yours. I can agree some are out of line, but then perhaps something should be settled here? Vampires can't harm mortals, and mortals can harm vampires?
You say you hunt a vampire that harms a mortal; in other words, you kill them. So that only makes it fair that we kill mortals who harm or attack us, no? Otherwise, this is a double standard, and you should swallow your words, as this is not justice but corrupt pride.

 


The cure


Next point: I strongly don't disagree with a cure. A lot of people are turned against their will, and that is indeed unpretty. However, I must point out that those who seek a cure should do so for the right reasons.


This is not to be weaponized.
This is not to be sold for profit.
This is not to gain fame or clout .
This is not to be used against a vampire's will.


With this said, everyone should work together for such a cure, and that also means not withholding information, slowing others down, or preventing them from moving forward with their studies, as this goes against the main four principles that should guide the search for a cure.


This also means I refuse to see this cure or its recipes in the hands of the government, military, or guards. I do not say they would misuse it; however, power today might be viewed as "justice," but tomorrow it might become a weapon, or simply a crusade to cure every single vampire, because that could be viewed as justice. The cure should be kept public, but should it be weaponized, I will personally ensure that whatever plant or ingredient you need for it is burned to extinction.

 

 


We are not monsters


On the topic of a cure and all, I wish to point out we are not monsters, beasts, creatures, or corrupted beings. We are just as much like you. We might not age physically, but we still feel, care, and love as you do. To declare us beasts is akin to declaring the elven race as a whole evil and monstrous. To go on a crusade to cure everyone, or even just a few, for wrongs, is the same as if we could cut the ears off an elf to make them human. Elves very much like their ears; I urge you not to touch them.

 


Final notes


I agree there are evils among some vampires; however, I urge you to look at humans, elves, greatlings, feytouched, and voidtouched. Don't they all also have some that do evil? Why don't we complain about that? Because vampires are mythic and new, they are scary, and you don't trust them. All races commit evil; no one is holy or above, and no one is better than another.

No race is holy.
No people stand above another.
No one is born superior.

 


To summarize my words:


Warm-blooded = A vampire that hunts the living.
Cold-blooded = A vampire that feeds off the willing and not to kill.
Green-blooded = A vampire that solely lives off animals.
Corpse-Eater = A vampire that solely feeds off the recently dead.

 

- Signed: C. V.


OOC:

 

Spoiler
So! on an ooc note! this is firstly me aiming to try and add a couple of words for diffrent type of vampires since i havent seen any! Secondly this is a semi call out to some people icly from my character! I mean no offence oocly! If people are here for conflict im open to discuss but dont expect anything ! come with reason! And at last.. ❤️ remember it is all rp!

Another note! If someone aims to pull this down.. the vampire will put it back up.. seems they persistant and has lots of copies..

 

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OPINION

You say to stop speaking for all vampires, yet you do so yourself, out of emotions and experiences, just as the one before you. 
There is nothing inherently wrong with speaking from what you've experience and felt, either.

FACT

Whether willing or not, there are risks associated with them being around blood.
These risks can vary; it seems some have more control than others. But the risk can still be there,
varying from case to case.

Everything under the this heading has been researched and proven.
I speak from this research. I speak from fact.


EXTRA NOTES FOR THOSE WHO READ THIS

Under Spire Law:

Section 1: Right to Safety
"Protection from physical harm, threats, and unjust punishment by officials or citizens. This includes freedom from being targeted for one’s beliefs, trade, or origin unless such acts break the law."

It is a violation of this right to target any individual affected by vampirism for the sole reason of being a vampire, provided none of their actions have broken the law.

Section 1: Right to Expression
"Freedom to speak, write, gather, or follow beliefs, provided such expression does not call for violence, promote insurrection, or directly endanger others."

It is a violation of this right to censor an individual for speaking of what they believe, have experienced, or wish to say, given it does not incite violence, insurrection, or endanger others.


Signed
L

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There are 10 types of people in the world: those who can read binary and those who can't.

 

[!]

A printed paper would be stuck to the bottom of the new post.

 


With regards to the anonymous C.V.

Bearing honest yet formal disregard towards the seemingly personally rooted disagreement expressed in thy words towards esteemed citizen Fukuro, be it unfounded or not, the notion expressed in the writings that seek to establish thy 'kind' as apart from us in race is, most disturbing and factually in disagreement with thy own words. Seeking to erect a boundary between with labels such as 'mortal' is nothing but a dishonest attempt at wedging a difference in our community, not dismissing the underlying - be it intended or consequential - intention to deem those afflicted with the vampiric curse as non-mortal.

They are mortals. Seeking to live their life the same as we do, breath the same air we harbour and bleed in the same manner our pains do so. All but in difference enforced by this ailment of the soul that seeks to feast on those unaffected by it. Tis not a race, but a condition, one many seeks to rid themselves of, be it through their own means, with the aid of those close to their heart or through the deliberate means of thought an research.

Be not mistaken by the manner of my words, such underhanded threats to seek to eradicate any manner of cure should it find itself in the hand of those who, by your words 'might use it as a weapon of a crusade' - despite thy examples being those who vowed the protection of the town and its people - wouldst be most heinous of crimes committed against the hope held by those afflicted.

'No race is holy. No people stand above another. No one is born superior.' And none stands above the law that observes us all equally. Crime, be it wrought on by vampires or those unaffected is crime regardless, and shall be dealt in the same manner regardless of who the transgressor be.

Be there no need to mention the spirit by which separating those afflicted by this curse, merely based on their preference to harm others or not, is one morally deplorable. Those who seek thrill and enjoyment in the suffering of others, wrought by their own hand is something that warrants serious concern, both towards the acts they would be willing to commit and their presence within our communities and the danger they might pose. Be your better.

Kind regards,
Tribune Monty


 

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[!] A paper was placed next to them all

Race? Afliction? curse? Sickness?

It might not been the right word, however nor is curse. You make it out to be worse then it is, To some it might be a curse, but that for sure arent everyone. If it will ease your mind call it an afliction, but i highly would refrain from curse or sickness. A type of life style? Sounds too puppy soft.

 

As for speaking for vampires as a whole, i dont think I really did, the most part was me speaking my point of view and what I personally would do. I spoke in the last bit as them as a whole, that we were not monsters, and sure that might now be right.. I agree, some see themselves as that.. but not everyone.

 

Law, rules, and freedom of speech, I'm not saying they can't speak on the topic, I'm not saying they shouldn't, I'm saying they should be wiser about it, like I maybe shouldn't have used the word race... However, as for the protection law? I ask you, why should this stop a vampire hunter from attacking you? Shoot you when you feed even if it is an animal. I don't see how this should stop hunters like it should stop the warm-blooded vampires.. It's a cycle.. but yes, self-defence will be used, and I'm sure others will too.

 

As for the goverment Monty, I started out by saying this was maybe not what would happen today, or tomorrow, i simply said that I dont trust a cure in their hands for the reason that it could be, as they are the standing biggest power within this city, that is a reason i say that. I hope you know i mean no offence to the people seated in there, simply me wanting to make sure this arent a weaponized cure should someone snap.. as it has been seen good leaders growing corrupt..

 

Mortal, none mortal? Mortal is that of a person who often dies from old age. A vampire doesn't quite do such.. or do they? I say none mortal because I won't call an undead mortal, I am not saying this to offend anyone, last I checked, i wasnt offended by calling myself such, was I? I heard many use the same term.. mortals to normal people. Do I read past your words? Maybe, through this is my view, I accept yours. 

 

And crimes, laws, and punishment, I'm not here to claim a moral high ground, but you all seem very pissed I say I would repay the favor if this elf pulls sword on my kind.. and you all point to the law when I mention it? I saw no such notes upon their old post buried under the papers.. or have they ripped them down? My point stands.. I will defend my kind if they or anyone pulls a weapon. That is how it goes.

 

Blood, and feeding.. I'm well aware we have our habits.. however, most vampires have an ability to resist this urge, even.. If it means you might look like dinner to them if you come all bloodied up to them, but if you wave a golden crown in front of a thief? wont they wanna steal it too? This is a horrible way of explaining.. but the thief would want the crown and steal it. That is their choice.. The vampire? their instinct wants the blood, but they could resist if trying.. for how long? who knows.. but gives you a reason to maybe back up, no? wave a raw piece of meat in front of a wolf, and it will bite..

 

Signed - C. V.

LastFallenAngel:

[!] A paper was placed next to them all

Race? Afliction? curse? Sickness?

It might not been the right word, however nor is curse. You make it out to be worse then it is, To some it might be a curse, but that for sure arent everyone. If it will ease your mind call it an afliction, but i highly would refrain from curse or sickness. A type of life style? Sounds too puppy soft.

 

As for speaking for vampires as a whole, i dont think I really did, the most part was me speaking my point of view and what I personally would do. I spoke in the last bit as them as a whole, that we were not monsters, and sure that might now be right.. I agree, some see themselves as that.. but not everyone.

 

Law, rules, and freedom of speech, I'm not saying they can't speak on the topic, I'm not saying they shouldn't, I'm saying they should be wiser about it, like I maybe shouldn't have used the word race... However, as for the protection law? I ask you, why should this stop a vampire hunter from attacking you? Shoot you when you feed even if it is an animal. I don't see how this should stop hunters like it should stop the warm-blooded vampires.. It's a cycle.. but yes, self-defence will be used, and I'm sure others will too.

 

As for the goverment Monty, I started out by saying this was maybe not what would happen today, or tomorrow, i simply said that I dont trust a cure in their hands for the reason that it could be, as they are the standing biggest power within this city, that is a reason i say that. I hope you know i mean no offence to the people seated in there, simply me wanting to make sure this arent a weaponized cure should someone snap.. as it has been seen good leaders growing corrupt..

 

Mortal, none mortal? Mortal is that of a person who often dies from old age. A vampire doesn't quite do such.. or do they? I say none mortal because I won't call an undead mortal, I am not saying this to offend anyone, last I checked, i wasnt offended by calling myself such, was I? I heard many use the same term.. mortals to normal people. Do I read past your words? Maybe, through this is my view, I accept yours. 

 

And crimes, laws, and punishment, I'm not here to claim a moral high ground, but you all seem very pissed I say I would repay the favor if this elf pulls sword on my kind.. and you all point to the law when I mention it? I saw no such notes upon their old post buried under the papers.. or have they ripped them down? My point stands.. I will defend my kind if they or anyone pulls a weapon. That is how it goes.

 

Blood, and feeding.. I'm well aware we have our habits.. however, most vampires have an ability to resist this urge, even.. If it means you might look like dinner to them if you come all bloodied up to them, but if you wave a golden crown in front of a thief? wont they wanna steal it too? This is a horrible way of explaining.. but the thief would want the crown and steal it. That is their choice.. The vampire? their instinct wants the blood, but they could resist if trying.. for how long? who knows.. but gives you a reason to maybe back up, no? wave a raw piece of meat in front of a wolf, and it will bite..

 

Signed - C. V.

[!] There would be a note placed on top of this note. [!] 

 

"For everyone and anyone reading this slop,

I, Shizakawa Kaho, along with a few people who have different backgrounds whether they are a cursesmith, or a healer, or even the Cursed Afflicted have answers to a possible cure as they helped me gain information on such. I am going to test it out with others and announce it to the public. So do not worry your pretty little heads for the government holding back on a cure. I have spoken to powerful beings to confirm that this IS A CURSED AFFLICTION AS THERE IS A BLIGHT ON YOUR SOUL. Those who suffer such things, there are ways to help you. Please seek me out for more information whether you are afflicted or not or merely wish to help.

Thank you all who are working so very hard on a cure and for those who are helping the cursed. They are still people...not a new race, but people who are just simply blighted and we are working hard to help them. Once there is a cure, there should be no excuse for those who are afflicted to stay afflicted.

If they remain, then they are simply cruel and a threat to all. Cruel to not just themselves, but to others as their greed has fully taken over and those people we should actually look out for since they will be a problem and will cause many terrible acts whether they are in control of their bloodlust or not.

Please be safe out there,

Shizakawa Kaho"

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((Posted on behalf of someone else c: ))

[!] Written in the ancient tongue, the following is left on the poster's original notice.

 

So it is the sheep tremble when the wolves arrive. 

A foolish thing childe. To try teach what cannot be taught. Nature cannot be nurtured. They will never know anything but fear as long as they remain the pitiful things they are. 

Let them tout those they place above themselves. The 'powerful beings' they believe that are so far out of reach. But we know. Even they know fear. They fear us, our power, the power that may usurp even theirs and maketh our own. 

We are their betters, and when legend, myths and .. fables fade, we will remain. We are Eternal.

(There are no further indications of who left this response, nor will there be any future responses like it.)



A simple note is added:

Do you know paper is a commodity? This will all become illegible in the rain

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[!]
A note was posted after.
"Cursesmith here, you are severed from the Nocturne, that's a massive curse. Also, I can afford paper."
-K

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[!] A note was placed once more besides the extra ones 

I care little for what the fables has deem it to you or higher beings, don't mistake this as my lack of care to the beings.. however, curse, blight or such, you are clearly reading past the point, through that's not unexpected of people sometimes.. 

A curse is first a curse if the people who carry it define it as such or should I curse someone with luck? Would that truly be a curse even if originally intended as one? I'm aware some vampire see this as a curse but some don't. Hence i say refrain from using that word... if such can't be understood I would ask you to leave my papers be as you do not get what they originally intend to point out miss.. Kaho?...

 

Atlast I frown upon your words, you call vampires cruel yet.. I see plenty amongst the town.. some leaving peacefully, others maybe a bit less so.. yet.. a threat? Maybe one or two.. they are a threat because you make them it.. you frame them to be evil and dark, but what should I had expected? People are.. dense to explain new things to but thats a trait of fear often times.. Atleast some here seems to understand the point.

 

As for paper?.. i got plenty.. try being a librarian.. heard they got lots too.

- C. V.

[!] The last part was written with red and the text more curved.. more elegant...

 

Don't make vampires the monster.. unless you desire to poke a bear and have the anger. It's simple.. yet you don't get it, you see a blight, a curse, and I see people that simply try and live peacefully..

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